tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post224939776026220427..comments2023-08-19T23:23:19.849+10:00Comments on Sentire cum Ecclesia: "Progressive, rational, independent"... and wrongSchützhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05026181010471282505noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-31512534837718934922010-10-25T12:02:35.000+11:002010-10-25T12:02:35.000+11:00If being a “magisterial Catholic” means deciding t...<i> If being a “magisterial Catholic” means deciding to vote as George Pell suggests she should vote then, no, that is neither positive nor mature.</i><br><br>++George, bless his little pink cotton socks, is not (on his own) the Church's magisterium (although he participates in it). Being a "magisterial Catholic" means accepting the dogma of the Church as defined by the Church's bishops in communion with the Bishop of Rome.Schützhttp://www.scecclesia.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-46011200978006768462010-10-26T23:26:47.000+11:002010-10-26T23:26:47.000+11:00Pere: I look in vain for a defined dogma to the e...Pere: I look in vain for a defined dogma to the effect that gay people may not adopt children.<br><br>Gareth: That is a pretty stupid thing to say Pere. <br><br>If God has outlayed for us that he finds homosexual acts as being gravely sinful and abominable, it follows that I dont think He would take very kindly to gay adoption or that Catholic dogma would express otherwise.Garethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-6530987537814667782010-10-22T21:20:45.000+11:002010-10-22T21:20:45.000+11:00Schutz,we have had to out up with thsi type of cra...Schutz,we have had to out up with thsi type of crap in protestantism for along time. Look at St michaels uniting and the psychobabble that is pedalled from there. appeals to people's belief that sin is really negative thinking,God is fun Guy and that tolerance replaces the Ten Commandmentsmatthiasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-90337880937763813562010-10-22T21:25:25.000+11:002010-10-22T21:25:25.000+11:00Yes, and this is just another version of "pro...Yes, and this is just another version of "protest-ism" - only it goes under the name of "dissent".Schützhttp://www.scecclesia.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-55090812467650358282010-10-23T11:55:57.000+11:002010-10-23T11:55:57.000+11:00As a Catholic, she must be open – genuinely open –...<i>As a Catholic, she must be open – genuinely open – to being taught by George Pell.</i><br><br>I get this. I really do. But I'm with Matthias and David on this one.<br><br>I saw only too well what "progressive" Christianity wrought in the ELCA, which once held the beliefs common to all Lutherans.<br><br>It seems as soon as women's ordination comes in a whole host of other situations arise. More than one parishioner left my ELCA parish when they discovered that the money they were putting in the collection plate was funding elective abortions for women clergy. Now, that seems almost old hat as the "progressive" ELCA is busily redefining what it means to be Christian at all.<br><br>Nope, I'll put my stake in the historic Christian teaching of Christ the Bridegroom of His Bride, the Church. Which, I think, aligns very much with magisterial teaching.Christinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-7622114967254438762010-10-25T23:31:48.000+11:002010-10-25T23:31:48.000+11:00++George, bless his little pink cotton socks, is n...<i>++George, bless his little pink cotton socks, is not (on his own) the Church’s magisterium (although he participates in it).</i><br><br>George, as I said explicitly, was mentioned purely as an e.g.<br><br><i>Being a “magisterial Catholic” means accepting the dogma of the Church as defined by the Church’s bishops in communion with the Bishop of Rome.</i><br><br>I look in vain for a defined dogma to the effect that gay people may not adopt children.Peregrinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-26136833446451595372010-10-26T11:10:48.000+11:002010-10-26T11:10:48.000+11:00I have been thoroughly heartened by the election o...<i>I have been thoroughly heartened by the election of Matt Harrison as the President of the LCMS, as it gives a real chance for an authentic historically valid Lutheranism to exist, which can dialogue with the Catholic Church. . . .</i><br><br>David, I couldn't agree more.<br><br>ChristineChristinenoreply@blogger.com