tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post918302228267374269..comments2023-08-19T23:23:19.849+10:00Comments on Sentire cum Ecclesia: While I'm at it: Footwashing SymbolismSchützhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05026181010471282505noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-74346196219710751882007-04-17T23:59:00.000+10:002007-04-17T23:59:00.000+10:00I must admit, Lucian, to having no idea whatsoever...I must admit, Lucian, to having no idea whatsoever what you are talking about.Schützhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026181010471282505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-49184204529323057132007-04-16T05:49:00.000+10:002007-04-16T05:49:00.000+10:00Now that I gave You a little hand here, how about ...Now that I gave You a little hand here, how about You (finally) answering my initial question about the 12 Gospels? ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-26381144192348093202007-04-15T22:58:00.000+10:002007-04-15T22:58:00.000+10:00Thanks, Lucian. Please note, everyone: THAT's how ...Thanks, Lucian. Please note, everyone: THAT's how it's done.Schützhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026181010471282505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-30412030282400784512007-04-15T02:19:00.000+10:002007-04-15T02:19:00.000+10:00http://youtube.com/watch?v=DNphOWIP4DM&mode=relate...http://youtube.com/watch?v=DNphOWIP4DM&mode=related&search=Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-5755415666905427132007-04-12T20:51:00.000+10:002007-04-12T20:51:00.000+10:00Hi David, Clara here, blogging from the 'time-shar...Hi David, Clara here, blogging from the 'time-share'. No problems with gender on Holy Thursday, just a struggle to get more than 6 males. It has been rather like a Holy Week retreat . . . I should tell you though that they could have used a cantor - but if I told you that, Easter accommodation next year would be rather cramped.<BR/>Happy Easter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-8423608836196050362007-04-10T20:28:00.000+10:002007-04-10T20:28:00.000+10:00Thanks for the comments folks. Welcome, Stephen, t...Thanks for the comments folks. Welcome, Stephen, to Sentire Cum Ecclesia. I went and had a look at your blogs and left a comment on "What's your Doctrine". Fr Mackenzie was just a little too arcane for me!<BR/><BR/>Just so that there is no confusion, I obviously had my tongue planted too firmly in my cheek and my cynicism was not properly comprehended. <BR/><BR/>There is no doubt (no possible doubt whatever) that the rubrics of the Maundy Thursday Mass of the Lord's Supper require the priest--and only the priest--to wash the feet of 12--and only 12--men--and only men. The reason is very simple and the "symbolism" is obvious. The priest is in the person of Christ. This is more than a symbol, it is a sacramental reality. The 12 men represent the 12 apostles--not the Church in general. For this reason only men take part in the footwashing. I was hoping that that was obvious to all my readers, but obviously not.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately in this politically correct world it seems we must allow women to play the part of male apostles also. That is a correlate to the push to allow women to be ordained as priests--they want to play the part of a male Christ also.Schützhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026181010471282505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-91214169275939433612007-04-10T16:52:00.000+10:002007-04-10T16:52:00.000+10:00Hi DavidJust leaving you some general comments abo...Hi David<BR/><BR/>Just leaving you some general comments about your blog - It's really good, keep up the good work, and keep on blogging.<BR/><BR/>I have a couple of little blogs but never seem to post to them as often as I should. Well done for keeping yours so up to date.<BR/><BR/>Good also to see another Australian keeping tabs on world religious affairs. My best new source of material seems to come from the ABC's Religion Report lately, but nowadays, there's religion everywhere.<BR/><BR/>Cheers<BR/><BR/>StephenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970238168875949105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-27810734775344764072007-04-08T09:32:00.000+10:002007-04-08T09:32:00.000+10:00I'm a newcomer to the Church, with much still to l...I'm a newcomer to the Church, with much still to learn, but I just participated in the foot-washing at our parish, and feel like I can comment. It was quite moving. (Except for me personally; my main thought was, <I>"There's over a thousand people watching me. Please God, don't let me forget my moves!")</I><BR/><BR/>Our pastor washes three people in the Chancel, and then they do the feet of the other nine, lined up along the center aisle. It worked smoothly and well.<BR/><BR/>The symbolism seems to be of "servant-hood." The priest is our servant, and we as Christians are servants of others. Our pastor likes to say something like, <I>"You are part of the Priesthood of all believers, and I'm your servant in this. Come the Judgement Day, I'm out of a job."</I><BR/><BR/>It would seem to me that this particular understanding should not preclude woman participating. We should all be disciples. It would guess it's different from the issue of having woman as Communion ministers or lectors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-31732007883825651212007-04-08T04:14:00.000+10:002007-04-08T04:14:00.000+10:00The number 12 is 'symbolic' in Scripture of the wh...The number 12 is 'symbolic' in Scripture of the whole people of God, but also an incarnational sense of the authorities given oversight of the whole people of God. The 12 men's feet probably represent the priest's service of the entire people of God represented by the symbolic 12 men or even, to get controversial, via service to the spiritual headship these men represent on behalf of Christian manhood in the 'domestic churches' the parish serves.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, why insist on males?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15189580002644810418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-67197701931930870122007-04-08T03:57:00.000+10:002007-04-08T03:57:00.000+10:00Handwashing..Pilate...goodness. I hope someone st...Handwashing..Pilate...goodness. I hope someone straightens those poor people out. How awful! <BR/><BR/>(Yet I am still laughing at the unplanned symbolic connection. I guess that's what happens when we take short cuts!)Dixiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08511317203353075644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21487528.post-56187030742784473412007-04-08T02:11:00.000+10:002007-04-08T02:11:00.000+10:00Do You read The Twelve Gospels also, on this day (...Do You read The Twelve Gospels also, on this day (Great Thursday)? Or do You have only the symbolic feet-washing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com